Posts Tagged ‘Eddie Gibbs’

About Every 10 Minutes…

// February 1st, 2010 // Comments Off // Church, School

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(From left to right > Dr. Eddie Gibbs, Barry Diamond, Drew Hage, Eileen Suico , Brian Richards, David Kwon, Robert Wallace, Aaron Graham, That Guy, Dr. Mark Hopkins)

January = No blogging month

February = I’m back. In the blog world and literally. I just came back in from my first doctoral cohort at Fuller and once again the time there was amazing. The picture above is my cohort and as he has done before, Yahweh blessed me with some amazing new friends.

Mark Hopkins and Eddie Gibbs were absolute gems as leaders. Mark brilliantly led us through our dissertation design, something that makes my brain want to explode, and Dr. Gibbs stretchd our conversation and ideas of what the church is and is to be in the world. Dr. Gibbs has this incredible way of landing a one liner about every 10 minutes or so that makes you miss the next ten minutes because you are trying to ponder what he just said. Dr. Hopkins later told us when we were discussing it that Dr. Gibbs prays for those lines…those moments to make you think.

Over the next week or so I’m going to post some of those great liners for discussion, but for now…what are you praying for? I’m not asking you about the things you want or even things you are thankful for or need. The question is how specific are you with how Yahweh can and will use you with your gifting?

Eddie Gibbs, Mike Breen & Lance Ford

// May 13th, 2009 // Comments Off // Church

MC591 – The Morphing of the Church (Session 4)

// March 10th, 2009 // Comments Off // Church, Leadership, School

Great statistical & sociological work on the growth of the early church

Relational evangelism over proclamation evangelism

Gene Edwards’ diaries series (great historical work on early churches)

1 Cor 11:18 … when you come together

The local congregation in European churches modeled a desire to be like a cathedral
The local people saw better priests (better looking, smarter), better buildings, relics, better worship (higher quality music)
Then they go back home and see “their” priest…who was committed to them – he wasn’t good enough
They wanted teaching & worship like they got at Catalyst & Passion & Beth Moore  

The oikos expression has been lost to the western church.
The extended family has broken up and the close contact has broken up.

What would it be like if gatherings of peoples did all of the ministries of Jesus? (pastoral bases)

The model has to be re-producible by normal people / not rock stars

churches are led by cultures that are highly skilled (very few) this creates a hire & fire culture > God hates this.
you have to be able to be led by the “lump”
the average person has been hired wired by God to be capable of leading at minimum an extended family
there are a lot of leaders of 50 around & not many leaders of 1000’s

we’ve got to take leadership back in to the lump

clusters & mid-size communities have come out of that; once you have learned how to create a leadership pipeline (what Jesus calls discipleship)…reproduce yourself over & over again; the only determining step is the number of leaders you can get your hands on

Mike disciples 30/40 leaders a week

one great thing about the american mindset is entrepreneurism…we figure out what works

most churches build the cart (organization) & starve the horse (organism); or the horse gets left behind
what we need is a light-weight low maintenance cart

http://www.3dministries.com

2 Meetings a Week

> Huddle – Leaders of Leaders; identified & called out (character, skill & faith…2/3 hours per week) (trying to produce high challenge & high support = empowered people)

these guys are leaders of communities; what you invest will yield return

(high challenge & low support = discouragement) (low challenge & low support = apathy) (low challenge & high support = cozy)

> Ministry (1.5 hours)

1) What business are we in this week?

2) How are we doing?

Count Leaders…not people!

There’s always a new restaurant with a new menu

he was the smartest guy who ever lived & if you decide that you have a better model then you are a twit

when there is not enough food for the peasants what happens to the relationship between the lord & his peasants

“i go there because i get fed” = you are functioning in a peasant role; when the lord runs out of food you are in trouble…there is rebel

a disciple by definition is a producer not a consumer

Orbital Model

we were created on the 6th day and our first day on the job was a day off. we were designed to work from rest

life as a series of investments: spiritual, relational, physical, intellectual, financial

what are people looking for from me?

  

MC591 – The Morphing of the Church (Session 3)

// March 10th, 2009 // Comments Off // Church, Leadership, School

Negative Impact Of Modern Culture on Worship

Rationalism: is God really there?

Anthropocentrism: Focus on Performer

Individualism: Meet my tastes and needs

Materialism: How will it enhance my potential & achievement

Consumerism: Become market driven

authentic worship must lead to walk & witness. if it doesn’t it’s spiritual self-indulgence

if our worship is to lead to witness…we don’t dismiss congregations…we disperse them

worship is the heartbeat of our witness

Restructuring of the Church For Mission Engagement

How is it that a dynamic house movement became a static institution?

the household in the pre-industrial society was not just a domestic unit but an industrial unit as well (manufacturing, banking, food, trading)

there was social interaction in the oikos. and we make ourselves unaccessible to the world around us.

80% of the work force was indentured. not like modern slavery. the household often gave them dignity, place and purpose

what would have happened if all of these people had been released at once?

the early church dismantled it from within.

because of trading non-christian households came in contact with christian ones

prisca & aquila

see notes for cities with house churches listed in the NT. (leaders are listed by name)







Significance of the House Church

Observable – People see Christians in operation

*No privacy as we know it; more dense population wise than Manhattan
*Violent places
*Dirty with waste in the streets  

Accessible – Close-by; feel at home

Economical – Don’t have to buy or lease real-estate

*Large/Mega-Churches are in danger during economic crisis

Flexible – Each relates to its context-

Re-producable – Every church can give birth to other faith communities

*Most church models aren’t in our context
*We desperately need much more of this

Apostles know everyone!

Prominence of Women in the Life of the Early Church

9 of the 26

Paul thinks highly of them

Intriguing of Case of Junia (prominent among the apostles)

Women mentioned first often

The problem here only comes when we whittle leadership down to individuals. The NT most often shows teams/communities.

People of Distinction

Aristobulus

Narcissus

Where Did They Meet?

Very small proportion actually lived in the villas that we think of

hard to get more than 30 people in them

extended households: family, slaves, apprentices, clientela, amici – friends

Paul saw fruit of Pentecost dispersion into other cities.

most lived in insula…as many as 6 floors

single room dwellings with shops on the first floor

buy meals @ the cafe on the corner; you were looked down on if you cooked in your home

no privacy; people hung out on the block; often there was a laundry at the base of the stairs (urine was used for bleach)

a retired legionnaire often looked after the security of the block

if the church can grow here it can grow anywhere

antioch 350k, ephesus 500k, rome 1m…you knew your block. turf feelings

true of most european cities until the automobile

Taberna (what priscilla & aquilla have) a workshop; single room accommodation; 14 found around corinth

about 15 people could crowd in; fam lived in the back or in the loft.

Community of the Future

From Hierarchy to Polycentric

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REPRODUCIBLE!

Is the church a starfish or a spider?

There will be more and more attacks on the institution; we better be building organizations that can grow when attacked.

Lifestream

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